DALIcontrol Lighting Control System Din-Mount Power Supply & Serial Interface Two Dali lines

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DALIcontrol Lighting Control System Din-Mount Power Supply & Serial Interface

Item Number: DCDALCIP250-2

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The DALI Control Din-Mount Power supply provides power for two DALI lines for your DALI lighting requirements. The power supply features indicators to show when power is operational.

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Specifications

Design

Range of product

DALI Control

Range

DALI Control

Product brand

Clipsal

Product or component type

dual power supply and serial interface

Device application

  • communication
  • power supply

Physical

Output current

<= 235 mA

Output current

<= 235 mA line

Local signalling

LED

Mounting support

DIN rail

Reach regulation

Free of Substances of Very High Concern above the threshold

Reach free of svhc

Yes

Eu rohs directive

Pro-active compliance (Product out of EU RoHS legal scope)

Toxic heavy metal free

Yes

Mercury free

Yes

China rohs regulation

 Pro-active China RoHS declaration (out of China RoHS legal scope)

Rohs exemption information

Yes
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Frequently Asked Questions

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How to change a wrong USB Driver on DCCABKIT6 

Suppose the following happens when connecting the DCCABKIT6 cable between Laptop and DALIcontrol Duo Mode 3 Power Supply (DCDALCIP250-2).

In Device Manager find something like

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The cable has likely been used with some other product that has recognised the FDTI chip and installed this LibUSB driver which is not recognised by the Simple Wizard which sees a different device ID

BEFORE GOING FURTHER REALISE THAT ONCE COMPLETE THE OTHER DEVICE WILL NO LONGER FIND ITS REQUIRED DRIVER.

Right click on this entry in the Device Manager and select Properties from the menu

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And proceed to the Driver tab

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…and select <Update Driver>

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… and Select <Browse my computer for Drivers>

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Select <Let me pick from a list of available drivers on my computer>

With this next Dialog un-tick the Show compatible hardware

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In this case you should see Manufacturer FTDI and Select from the Model USB Serial Port which should start the install finishing with…

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From here you should now be able to connect.

It is important to note that when connecting to the DALIcontrol Duo Mode 3 Power Supply (DCDALCIP250-2) with the DCCABKIT6 programming cable and running DCBMWizard or SimpleWizard that the power supply be in mode 1. To achieve this on the DCDALCIP250-2 press and hold the <ON A> button and momentarily press the <TEST A> button. The Line A indicator will single pulse 5x to indicate the mode.

 

If there is a compatible driver installed you can try tick Show Compatible hardware, then try selecting one of the drivers below.

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If there are no drivers to be found on the Computer in question it is then possible to download the software by going to the following on  your web browser https://support.arduino.cc/hc/en-us/articles/4411305694610-Install-or-update-FTDI-drivers and follow the instructions laid out.

Also go to https://ftdichip.com/drivers/  and follow up with https://ftdichip.com/document/installation-guides/


 

What is the difference between (5502DAL + DCDALCIP250-2) Old Vs 5502CDGP230 New Hardware?

Dimension wise - 8 module vs 6 modules wides

Built in DALI PS - Separate vs Build in dali power supply

C-Bus Current draw 32mA vs 20 mA

Dali Compatible Vs Dali2 Compliance…


Dali 5200DAL vs 5502DCGP230
 

Does DALI Simple Wizard require an installer dongle?

No DALI Simple Wizard is free software provided by Clipsal by Schneider Electric.

DALI Simple Wizard can program the DALI ECG's and ECD's on both DALI Lines A and B which are connected to a DCDALCIP250-2 DALI Dual Power Supply and Dual Serial Interface via a
DCCABKIT6 USB to Serial Programming Cable. The DCDALCIP250-2 itself acts as the license for DALI Simple Wizard.

What is needed with DCDALCIP250-2 to program clipsal DALI gear using simple wizard?

DCCABKIT6 programming cable is needed with DCDALCIP250-2 to program Clipsal DALI gear using a simple wizard.
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https://www.clipsal.com/products/detail?CatNo=DCCABKIT6&itemno=DCCABKIT6&backto=/search?q=DCCABKIT6&tab-document-1=0

What is the replacement for DCDALP200/DCDALP250?

The replacement is Dali Control Din-Mount Power Supply & Serial Interface, Two Dali lines

Part number DCDALCIP250-2

https://www.clipsal.com/products/detail?CatNo=DCDALCIP250-2&itemno=DCDALCIP250-2&tab-document-1=0

Does there need to be any segregation between DALI and 240V?

No – The DALI line must be run in a cable that is mains rated (i.e. minimum 1.5mm mains rated twin cable or 5-core soft cabling). As a rule of thumb, you should presume the DALI Line cable has mains voltages present and therefore you should treat the cable type requirements accordingly.
For further information on Dali Products see:https://www.clipsal.com/products/dalicontrol-lighting-control-system
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What hardware do you need to run DALI Simple Wizard?

The DALI Simple Wizard provides a simple commissioning tool for DALI networks. It takes advantage of the Mode 3 DALIcontrol Power Supply's ability to transmit DALI programming to ECGs and ECDs across DALI lines.

Hardware required:

Dalicontrol Dual power supply & SCI - DCDALCIP250-2
USB to RJ45 Programming Cable - DCCABKIT6

PC/Laptop with DALI Simple Wizard Software

Is DALI power supply DCDALCIP250-2 DALI2 certified? Is it possible it can be used to operate dali-2 ballasts?

Unfortunately DCDALCIP250-2 are not DALI2 certified

There is no certainty that it will work, because there were no tests for bus power supplies before DALI-2.

DALI devices (switches and sensors) are a big risk. There is a big chance both our switches/sensors and DALI2 devices will clash. The switches/sensors use the extended DALI range but this is not part of DALI2. If DALI2 devices use this same range there could be comms issues.

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Can i program DALI ECG's and DALI ECD's without using DALI Buildings?

If your DALI Lines are powered using the DCDALCIP250-2 DALI Dual Power Supply and Dual Serial Interface you can
use DALI Simple Wizard to perform basic programming of DALI ECG's and ECD's.

Requires use of USB to Serial Programming Cable - DCCABKIT6

DALI Simple Wizard requires the DCDALCIP250-2 to be set to Mode 3
DALI Simple Wizard can be downloaded from

http://www2.clipsal.com/cis/technical/downloads/dali_control

 

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